UD vs ORC

The reason why I post this is because most of the Undead community have trouble against orc and if a very in-depth guide can be created to help them I believe this talk of imbalance will become more about SKILL AND STRATEGY instead of shit talk. This just separates our community as a whole, just look at the starcraft community on team liquid, they are so helpful to each other and the website holds a PLETHORA of VERY well done guides, but here we just complain about map hack and imbalance with our condescending attitudes.


Build Orders

Ted Fiends

Build order popularized by chinese pro WE.pepsi.TeD. This fiend build
gets a fast hero/tech with slower fiends.

"The main idea of this: Get to tier3 asap for lich with orb, hire dr. Since you will be having an advantage, you can get all good items from creeps and just push (big turtles @ Tr/ Shops and red camps @ TM). If you are good enough, you should be able to deley him enough and even be same hero lvl then you hit tier3. Obviously its best to do this on on TM/TR as its easy to harras, later on you can reach level 3 DK fast enough."

-CoilNova=GG

2 Acolyte Que
Altar + Zig
Crypt
Tomb of Relics
Graveyard
Ghoul
Ghoul
Nerubian Tower
--Tech--
Zig
Fiend
Fiend
--Tech--
Zig
Lich
Slaughter
Zig
Fiend
Statue
--Optional Destroyer Upgrade--
--Optional Sac Pit--
--Optional BoneYard--
Additional Fiends


Fast Fiends

Very common build order for 2v2 games and solo against orc. Very popular
build to use every game for most new undead players.

2 Acolytes Que
Crypt + Graveyard
Altar
Zig
Ghoul
Tomb of Relics
Fiend
Zig
Fiend
Fiend
Fiend
Tech
Zig

Add 1 to 2 more ghouls for lumber depending on the speed on tech after T2.


Standard Ghouls

Most popular against night elf

1 Acolyte Que
Altar + Crypt
Zig
1 Acolyte Que
Tomb of Relics
Ghoul
Zig
Ghoul

depending on strategy can either tech quickly at low ghoul count for gargs or mass a
number of them to attack.


Fast Hero Ghouls

Used commonly against Humans. (I have seen players like TeD, Lucifer, Happy, Xlord use this build against pro human players like SkY, ToD)

please note that this strat requires a shit load of micro

1 Acolyte Que
Altar + Zig
Crypt
1 Acolyte Que
Tomb of Relics
Ghoul
Zig
Ghoul
Ghoul
Crypt
Zig
Ghoulx4
Zig
More Gouls

your food count will be 50... with enough micro you can gg this in no time.


Susiria Ghouls

Used in a Melting Valley replay where the korean player Susiria made late hero
with many ghouls. More cost efficient if not harrasing on a difficult map to creep.

2 Acolyte Que
Crypt + Altar
Zig
Tomb of Relics
Ghoul
Zig
Ghoul

Lucifer Fast Expand

Popularized on Lost Temple against Human ( I first thought this strat was useless until i saw Lucifer nail it vs ToD. he raped him units wise and resources wise)

2 Acolyte Que
Crypt + Graveyard
Altar
Zig
Tomb of Relics
Ghoul
Zig
Ghoul
Ghoul
Ghoul
Ghoul
Acolyte
expo
Double Zig at expo
Tomb of Relics at expo
Tech
units of your choice...